You are absolutely right, some people don't do the DD that maybe you or I do. However over the years I have noticed an intolerance for this. Please everyone--Stop and Think--Realize --not everyone has the skills or confidence to do the DD we can without thinking. You know if someone asks whats up, you know isn't that what this board is about!!! So often we jump all over people because trhey ask for info, and are told call the Co., well some people are just held back by insecurity or can't call from work (9--5). I really think this Agoracom site is a new beginning. Those who have the skills a savey should lighten up and just help those less skilled but into SNO along. No one likes to be jumped on because they are not quite as savy as others. True discusion will come when people feel they can be able to ask anything as long as it is truly genuine. Ther is alot of people out there that own this that don't say anything because they are not familiar with system, open the door and they will come. I really think this could be so much better if we just stopped replying like we were still on that STOCKHouse thing. Hard habit to break but well worth the effort. This is a great new site ---lets make it even better---show some tollerence. JMOO