Who are the "GUYS" you are referring to? Personally I call a spade a spade, and discuss the bad news as well as the good news. In regards to the CTO, it is in effect in Canada and not the US. I assume the wrongs are being corrected, but as you correctly say there is no discussion on the CTO. Those in the know must not have anything to say. I would like to know why it was ordered and why the info put out in Jan-Feb wasn't adressed at that time & not dug up now? I have a copy of the Policy Documents / Decisions and Orders bookmarked. Only news of any type will bring out the posters. In the mean time............sit back & wait. This board is better than that !!!!! Just kind of in Limbo now. Please don't compare this board to Yahoo-RB.