SFMI owns claims rights as does GHDC and they lease them to SFMI, SFMI owns a mill and GHDC will get some nsr from its proceeds and some lease payments, it's not 100% owner-tenant. GHDC has a much tighter share structure that SFMI and will move easier if money hits it. It could run like SFMI did a couple years back, and who would not mind a move to .47 for GHDC. you have posted that you are down on both investments so that "step ahead" did not get you any advantage, yet. I hope that it will soon. I think it will but PQ is at the helm. GHDC has suffered some dilution for a company that does not do all that much. If they do try to make a go of something who knows what PQ will do to it. Both lack money to move forward it appears at this time. SFMI has penny flippers and not day traders, you can't get much money in and out of the thing quickly at the current volume. it is time for both of these stocks to shit or get off the pot. with the markets near all time highs there are 100s of millions of dollars in capital gains in A Simons cirlce available to invest so...?