I know what you mean about SH...I hardly ever check there anymore.... maybe twice a month, and I was going to say that it is usually the same, but I think it is actually getting worse as time goes on.

On your other thoughts (which were totally "on topic" and could be on the main board)....I pretty much concur with all you have said for 2008. I am a bit more optimistic than you on production for 2009. They will be starting to get the new close-to-surface mine going as soon as possible (which is later this year, IMO) but the ore from there will not hit the mill till mid 2009 I expect. Meanwhile I am hoping better grade ore from the underground zones, that they have been getting ready, to hit the mill later this summer and into the fall. I can't really support these thoughts with hard facts -- just my view of it right now.

I agree with you, Jeffram, on the "long-term winner" view, and not likely a short-term popper. We have been languishing in the <$1.50 zone for far too long, and I would be surprised (but pleased, mind you) to see us above $2.00 very soon -- maybe by fall. But I do think $3 - $5 is very reachable in the next 1.5 to 3 years. JMHO also.

NLion