How many 1/4s have we heard it will be next 1/4? Go back 5 years and read the news release about the discovery of 98 vein. Wow, back then I thought we are going to be rolling in gold. Guess what, we've been mining 98 vein for almost a year now and we can't even come close to guidance targets. Christos Guollos say through this from day one. I wish I would have taken my rose colored glasses off long long ago! These guys make Tod Hoffman look like genious!