We already know they will produce at minimum 26,000 ounces this quarter and roughly the same every quarter next year which is as much a mystery as analyst targets. Mill throughput aint going to do it this quarter which is almost already in the books so grade around 7-8 will, which would throw off next year's guidance given the permit app for 2400 tpd. In the analysts' defense, with the amount of management slip ups and mixed signals, how can anybody make an informed decision on the dis/information provided unless you were already over the fence like that old guy and his kid who hired the new guy.