The simple point that Deliverator is making is that it is time to move on. We can debate the past till the cows come home and it ain't going to change anything. It is time to get behind the new mangement and be positive until you have a reason to doubt them. IMHO they are going out of their way to keep from over promising. All of the nuimbers are there and if anyone does not trust them I wonder why they would not bail out for the many other glaring opportunities out there. I have been cleaning up my stable and how I view management is one of the criteria I am using to make my decisions. I trust the management of SGR and I am going along for the ride.