..i guess if i just posted articals from Kitco , as we have seen lately, maybe i would not have seen such a drastic drop in my points to-day. I went from a high of 3.8 down to a low 3.7, thats 140 points drop.. so i get penalized for raising mining issues that seem to bother some here. I won"t raise mining issue"s here as i see alot of hostility, but i have defended both sides ( management & union ) during my 30 yrs in the Industry. with out prejudice .Traps7