They might have shifted already, SGR is up 8%.

to the board: Be negative if you must, but to those who are worried, somethings at SGR need to change, and that change takes time. With the new guy at the helm, we could see a slow move towards that change.

You don't want to over do it right away or the market will expect more from you.

If they are saying 40,000 ozs, this is a good sign that they are being realistic. Companies whose value shoots up when they are in the infancy of production, always underpromise and overdeliver.

Let the 'new' gang start underpromising and we will see if they can even deliver that before we start calling for heads.

I will wait.