If paper gold is being manipulated down at a rate of 100 to 1 against the physical gold available, what concerns me is whether the gold companies are also being manipulated in a similar fashion. Jim Sinclair says that you should take possession of the gold companies stock certificates, I am seriously considering doing this with at least two of my largest holding which include Sangold. on my T D Waterhouse account. As I understand TD don’t provide stock certificates.. Any thoughts on whether these non certificated share transaction are fully accounted for? I wonder what Warren Buffet meant when he warned of derivatives.