Ruf, Don't worry about me, I am relaxed. The reason I am trying to figure it out is simple. I want to learn how to be a trader. After going all cash in the summer of 2008 I recognized that there was excellent opportunities for traders and as such in the spring of 2009 I started looking for bargains to trade. With all the risk overhanging the markets I started buying blue chip (BMO, PCA,TD etc. ) and did quite well. These stocks were easy to trade and make money after the crash. Since then I learned I am not very good at trading as I have been unable to fight all the human emotions that tend to make 95% of us losers. I tend to buy when the market is rising and sell the first sign of trouble. All of the action stressed me out. By taking a position in SGR I look at the big picture (as I see it) and have learned to relax and wait comfortably in my beliefs for the company to grow. That being said, I think that if I was a good trader like BCB I could have probably been about $75,000.00 further ahead than I am now. I have learned a ton of information posting and reading the boards as we are fortunate to have many people of knowledge willing to spend some time sharing that knowledge. Once you learn who you can trust it is like going to school most days. Ruf, you may be right and I am wasting my time, however if I end up getting screwed, I at least want to learn something from the excercise.