i might be p...ssing into the wind with this post......i agree i would prefer to see them make money.....and i don't think mr. ginn sees it this way all the time....mining people who build large companys almost always need to risk everything at every toss of the coin....just look at barrick,goldcorp,agnico,vale,etc history.....they took big risks and when they are successful everyone says what great company builders mining man of the year and all the other accolades......thet are bestowed after the fact...but my contention is these types of people are driven to risk everything and at some point in time the large shareholders step in and temper the super acheivers drive....10 years ago we were anothing company with some dubious properties in bc...with a role of the dice and some fancy financing(s) we are where we are today...a small player that may yet make it to the big boys club....some one has put the breaks on the big gambles.....we are spinning off ground into separate entities.... looking at joint venturing......and most important of all reducing sgr risk...to the flagship property bisset.....they seem to be getting their act together as to how to maximise mill throughput by developing a mining plan and the infrastructure required to permit same....this bodes well for the mill throughput....oz produced......cashflow and ultimitely shareprice for us.......i actually think someone has told them to change their strategy as it pertains to the flagship property.....and some of us are getting distressed they want hyp so that the adrenaline rush and price can go hand in hand.....it will over time