,,Merc, time will tell if the hinges are larger on Sans side or JVs, either way, holders of the shares will benefit. San City, holders have 5 % of the JV, and with the help of others here, could pound the desk with 10 % or more. Winkin, Blinkin, and Nod would sure be upset if we had 34 % , AND WE CONTROLED the final say. Long On The Green_BELT,. Traps7