"This answer is the same answer I gave last year and the year before and....   It has not changed.   I think the game plan is buyout"

thats the very problem SanFran!! - if something actually would have come out of this sort of behavior over the last couple years,then fine, let it slide. The same old answer isnt working for DM anymore , he's over used he's sales pitch & I'm sick of it.

glta