BDA,,,,I understand what you say but I also suggest that BoM is not the only priority with our insiders. I think the growing list of orphans and other may well superceed any of 208s perceived value long term,,,,so we have to put weight on these other possibilities,,,,not all eggs are in the 208 basket,,,KD and HL know this!!,,,as they would also know a lot more than what us minions could ever be witness to as outsiders. Couple that with the reality of what info can be accessed in a round about fashion in this computer age!!,,,,,very little is private any more,,,why governemnets cant even keep their secrets from opposing forces!!,,,,,I know thats a long shot,,but no more longer than when we see heavy price and volume on a stock well prior to insiders making annoumcements in this market,,,,,,we are certainly at a greater disadvantage when investing in a company than an insider of that same company......jmo