jinxer. I agree with you. When the market are back on it's feet we will see much higher prices, but the finance sektor is sick, world economi is sick, we could be facing very difficult times, we have to solve all these things, polution/environment is one of them we have to deal with, our waste is another, 50 000 children are born into poverty every day, world population has trippled since 1930, from 2bill to 6,5bill, first now the growthrate has begun to slow down, what will the impact of having a lot of old peoble be? We have to be on forefront, not try to mend it along the way. I can only speak of denmark, but we have been near or shortsighted(looking), we should have used government research to get the most reliable results, for historical right results, cause a company will focus of selling, making profit to shareholders. I think medicine research. It was only a "harmless" bacteria that was the cause to aids. Now we got birdflue, mutated. But I'm sure you know we have alot to do and it's ok, maybe this crises gets us closer, we find out working together on all these issues. We must get the poor peoble to buy:) and not only tobacco and cheap beer.

Today is focus on banks and it begins to sound as it will get better.

For qec I can only say that if I had a fund I would buy 1mill shares at once. It must be traded at book value or little under in canada, without landvalue or future earnings and outlook priced in. I have expected zero or negative earnings for some time, dont understand it can come as any surprice.