In Brazil Vale can plant trees in the Amazon as a way to offset their carbon use. From all account the Amazon forest needs help. I am of the mind the torch thing is done, way to many delays no action what so ever the last two years. If torches are a go then it's a bonus. I think the market has also viewed the torches as not happening in the way they were first promoted. Having companies interested that don't want to be named is a real flag. As these companies want all the good press they can get in regards to the enviroment. More excited about the powders and the work they are doing with HPQ.