Traps--I trade with Charles Schwab and they take it right off the Venture. I think the information I got was correct though the volumes the MM was willing to sell were not. I ended up buying 30,000 at .2875 though I had been told only 5000 was available at that price. But what this seems to mean is that few or no individuals are willing to part with shares below .33, which was the next price after .2875. You can buy at in between prices, but I think you are only getting it from the MM. It's good that individuals are not selling here. Thanks for the order information.