I found this discussion two days ago. Interesting folks posting. What became clear to me is that it necessary to look at a chart with out preconceived notions, and to avoid setting up parameters which will fit one's preconceived notions in order to argue to win.

There is a powerful truth to the poster who said, look at the chart, not the name of the chart , when drawing conclusions. And a careful choice parameters when setting up the chart, is good to remember.

I suggest the discussion was damaged from the beginning as it was named so casually "Gold is Dead, long live the Bear, " words which will always make certain folks see redder than clearer.

Interesting board this is. Has gathered some folks worth following. That is my conclusion.

Have a good afternoon, and think on the life of Jobs, as I will today. Life is so brief . Do not waste time .

Kobe from Niagara.