It would seem to me that a company that says they will have revenue in the future is a speculative investment  and a company that has revenue  now is not a speculative investment as in dividends etc...  And in regards to trader`s frustrations ,,I have traded a few messages with the former IR guy  Chu in the past and he once   said there were alot of  people that have a made a lot of money off PTK stock,, remember when it went up to 2.85 years ago,, and for all practical purposes most of the people that have ever heard of Poet were on this forum.. As ET would say,, "Think about it ".