That would be a matter of opinion Rainer.. I can remember a poster,, don`t remember the name but long gone now,,, that said PTK was going down to .25 cents .. I can also remember the 70 dollar club which was certainly much more popular.. Who was right ?? Bashing or pumping makes absolutely no difference to the stock price,, if it did we would have hit 70 dollars by now and not .25 cents.. Just my humble opinion of course..