I asked IR regarding the blackout period and was told that it would extend serveral days past the Q3 earnings release.  I do not think we should expect any markers this week.  They should be available to buy beginning the week of December 5th but if we haven't seen any by Dec 21st then I would not expect management or the BOD to take a position.  Management has been duly informed that shareholders would appreciate their support.  Only time will tell.  Lets hope they decide to become shareholders.