I think it was more than the ebitda positive in 2018 Statement Jack, I think it was also that everyone could see there was to be more of a wait before news that would move the stock in a serious way.....like a few quarters according to guidance suggested. Thats enough time for the traders to work their magic! Dont get me wrong, I have 25,000 reasons to want to see it move right flippin now! lol, but never have I felt more, that we are on the verge......that our time is near. Anyways, patience and good luck everyone, Cheapie