Yeti, you need to get PC out of your head. I'd seen guys like that work the Venture for many years, not all here had had that experience, so it was a learning experience. And of course there was Geoff Taylor to more than balance PC out in terms of tech expertise. But, eventually, PC did recognize he actually had a tiger by the tail (as in, "hey, this stuff may actually be worth billions") and recognized that he needed help, so he brought us Ajit -a huge parting gift! It's the combo of tech/commercial experience that we have now that's so meaningful.