I will go with your view on the EBITDA.. And,,when this was mentioned at the THM the share price was around 1.40 and got whacked down with in minutes and we sit at .85 today.. I am pretty sure that most on this forum saw it happen...It just seems to me that it was a big mistake ... Anyway ,this is what Forbes thinks of EBITDA business.. http://www.forbes.com/sites/tedgavin/2011/12/28/top-five-reasons-why-ebitda-is-a-great-big-lie/#4151c7f469d1