Junkers, Um, at the risk of stating the obvious, all anyone around here does is talk. All day everyday. Here's where I think you are wrong: at the current valuation it doesn't matter in the slightest if Apple is involved. Let's say they aren't. And tomorrow you found out. Would you sell? I wouldn't because I believe ptk has a technology that will be monetized and brought to market. Apple is just blue sky. Now, if the share price were $12 and we were seriously discussing the fact that apple's potential involvement was the only thing justifying the current $12 price, well then, you would have a point. I don't care how long you've held, two days or two years. The market doesn't care. The facts are the facts. We are long a potentially disruptive tech at absolutely bottom basement valuation. Period. Apple, Google, whatever! It's just a bunch of individuals passing the time. if you think there's too much blue sky talk (over Christmas!) then it sounds like you need a break.