I have mentioned before that they are not entirely under the radar. They have made many presentations with the aid of IBK. They have visited my firm several times and have told their story. The problem is that they are a company on the venture without a proven tech and no revenues or partners. They are up against very powerful worlwide companies that spend billions in research. They are getting closer but not there yet. I know many managers who would not touch a stock on the venture. They would gladly buy it at $5 or $10 on a real exchange with revenues they can see.