have to agree Scruff, and I will say again, that we have no idea how big the buy orders actually were... many times , on various stocks I have had buy orders in, only to see at the end of the day that I was filled on just a thousand shares... aggravating but it happens... this could easily have happened on these small buys and I am sure its the case ... it just makes sense... important point, as you make clear is the BUYING.... we don't see insiders selling ! NGM holding its own right now on a day that is very bad for markets and the POG.... my guess is that if there were real problems at NGM , management would find some way to get the SP up and start unloading their own stock... this has never happened and its exactly what happens with many small companies... I will stick with the money people.. this latest action on the stock is intriguing to say the least...