4 mil oz... maybe even 5 ... SP .75 .... going up from there with lots of roller coaster rides.. if NGM doesn't get thing rolling this year (2012) then they never will.... they have the money to do a lot of work... if they run out before getting the SP up then the whole thing goes in the dumpster and there will be a rollback.... but I don't see that happening... the people who have a lot of money in this won't let that happen until they make a good profit.... and that means a much higher SP first....