Before you have a 10% threshold, I can telt you, they start with 3, than 5% after years of analyzing. It would be untrue to say they are only 4 years involved, you are right, not all retail has waited for 8 years as well, on the contrary. Point is probably best made, RCF knows exactly what it is doing, has been the case for many years. Let's agree to disagree for the newcomers, a 10% threshold has not been my measure by any of your standards. However, I feel you are right in your remark.