JL what i meant is it was cliffs that was going to be bought out not noront. We are fairly safe at the moment. I think someone is eying up cliffs for a buyout and pushing down any value in the ring for this pricing of a buyout. And i think that it will be done soon. They pretty much put up a for sale sign when they announced the work stoppage. The new CEO is going back to the basic ore mining that they know, he is going to fix their balance sheet, some money from the sale of the ring would help them. Just my humble opinion.