I guess this is directed at me rj. I'm not exactly sure what you mean. I am not taking swipes at KWG. I want them to be successful, i've even thought of buying, at the right price. However, everytime i've even thought about it, I can't figure out exactly what it is i'm buying, except maybe an "annoyance ticket". As of today, I see them only as a thorn in the side of companies who have actually found something and who actually want to move forward. KWG was never able to prove up reserves like Noront or Freewest, so they've used a different approach to try and cash in. And who knows they may get bought out because of it. If so, good for them and good for the shareholders. But I do not look at cliffs as the problem for the delays (even if I don't like everything they do), I see KWG as the one holding everyone up. What KWG doesn't realize, is their strangle tactic may result in the E/W route succeeding, thus putting KWG in a very bad spot for the next 5+ years. It's a risky game............remember I said it. Just my two cents, good luck to you rj

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