The problem is that Cliffs and Noront need to have a plan of what they want to do before a discussion takes place and the FNs don't realize that the plan will then be modified to accomadate them. FNs want a say in the making of the plan immediately when they have no experience with mining or no knowledge of what is even needed to be done.. Its a strange and difficult situation. What are the companies suposed to do? Come to them and say...We wanrt a mine but we can't tell you what or where or how we are going to do it. The FNs would be saying....tell us what you want to do and we will say if it works for us. Scewed if you do and screwed if you don't. How can sombody discuss what is happening when it hasn't got to that point yet. Its the FNs own fault for being so anti-social and self defeating and societys fault for thinking that FNs should be the same as everyone else from all around the planet who live and are born or come to Canada to have a life. The FNs wanted to join in Canada for the benifits of its government programs and when they see something happening they don't understand the get defensive first. Where is my homeland and aboriginal land????? I thought it was Canada seeing as I was BORN here too. Who gives a crlap where MY ancestors were 500 years ago.