"You can kick and scream all you want but no one is listening in the Cliff camp. They have a plan in place and they will do what's best for Cliff.

First. I figuratively nor literally am screaming. Second, not listening is a downfall. Third, how Cliff feels is no secret. They are not invincible. They seem to think they are.

And, if "they could not care less what we have to say", then I shudder to think if "they could care less what we have to say".

Good to see you posting rosehill. Hopefully, you will enlighten us as you used to in days past.

Sincerely,

vermillion