I didn't attack you so why call me"blind long holder" Just asking why you are still here? I see what the markets are doing and have a different opinion about where my money is safer. The investment world has many goals ands one of those is to invest. Investment in objects that will grow and develope. Some investors want to invest in the destruction of society and companies by using what I concider legal money making but unethical practices. Nothing wrong with selling your shares, it is selling mine that I have a problem with and taking the rental fee without paying me for the use of my shares. That is where shorters are suposed to get the shares from. How does somebody sell 200 billion shares they don't own or borrow. That shows me that any broker can "make a mistake" on purpose. When economies are down and people are in trouble, I believe in the need for our return to a system of trading with conscience instead of profit only. I will not step on other investors to take their money or try and convince them to do something because of what someone else says on a news channel. I am not following the herd, because they are running but digging in and waiting for the dust to clear to rebuild. Then will be the time to strip bare the destoyers. Taxes are a way to attack back by those who have the bigger voice threough election. Maybe some of these leaders of companies will be striped naked of what they treasure most, their overpaid cash. The winners will be the builders and providers, not the thieves and pilagers.