What happens if NOT gets at least 34% of the FWR shares tendered by the 1st. They can take those shares that they would then own and use them to vote down ANY cliffs big could they not at any time. Unless of course the FWR BOD(the complete gentelmen they are) makes it so there is no vote.... The best thing for NOT (if they really want FWR) is to still get as many shares tendered to them by releasing some more good results. The FWR guys have seemed to have changed their tune now that the NOT SP is up and cliffs offer is still PUNY in their words.. These are very interesting times and fun at that. I dont think that any outcome will be detrimental to our SP. Finding it hard to just sit back and watch. But what can i do buy a drill and help them out.. :) TTY