a little while back NOT had a gent from, I believe Vale .... was it?, that was present at a luncheon and there was all kinds of spec. about what that meant. Now there appears to be spec. about what the Samancor connection might lead to. Yes, NI was the deal then and now things could have changed since Cr has become the bigger entity, for now. But be mindful that things can change on a dime and we'll only know the score when the game is over. I still think we will be surprised when we learn of all of the players involved. There could be a number of fish lurking. Who knows what a combination of them will bring about. We'll see.