I concure d12, the claim count just does not compare, they have had great results so far from thier drilled claims, i'am sure that the success they have enjoyed to date has been with the cooperation of Richard era NOT management. There are many that frequent this board in stealth mode who with ulterior motives up thier sleeves will go to great lengths to plant the seed of doubt, and to cast a shadow on NOT. All i can say to them is "Good luck", nobody's buying the crap they spout.