I was just discussing the use of the word manipulation with Vermillion. It would seem to me that OBG's posts are very manipulative. They might have the affect of scaring would be investors away and perhaps getting present investors to run screaming as they sell off their shares. Bearing in mind that we are around that time when gloom and doom is or is about to achieve it's full blossom.... the point at which the last are squeezed out of their shares as they are scooped up by waiting arms, gloom posters help play the last hand as we approach bottom. Perhaps OBG is a day or swing trader. Folks have blamed Al on this count. Strikes me that OBGs comments are a little bit overly dramatic to say nothing of negative. I would take the verity/sincerity of his comments with a very large grain of salt.