The fact about NOT is we have nothing concrete we have DE1 high grade no tonnage so market can't properly value it. We have DE2 not proven up yet. We have Windfall ramp isn't built no recorded tonnage. What surprises me is how many people that are baffled by our sp. The simple fact is we have alot of great things to look forward to but until these things are proven to the point where the market can put a value on them this sp will be the norm. The more NOT and area players prove this thing up the sooner the market will react till then we wait that is the speculation that is the gamble i'm still glad i'm here and will be by the looks of it for quite awhile.