roadguy, you gave an even better example of the cup with handle.  Thanks for posting this.  What a great bunch of posters we have on board.  There are the very technical ones who give us a lot of information that sometimes takes time to digest, and then others that by looking at maps, charts, etc., they can see what is happening at the moment.  I am very proud to be part of this great McFaulds Lake team. GLTAL   jimmied