ads, I was sitting next to Cliff at breakfast for about 30 minutes.. Gloria needs to take a charm class as it is very obvious that she has no patience for the shareholders......Carl always appears that he is a happy go lucky kind of guy and Cliff has a personality.........I do agree with Marc , and hardball questions had to be asked and with his health issues he has my respect ............ Cliff did say that if he was asked to take the job now - today - and especially after reading the message boards he would have to think and rethink if this was going to be a wise choice..............Yes he feels that the message boards has a negative impact on the share price.............Btw, KW and his brother are good guys........Larry