gee...manor...i said i did not see myself as negative.  Why would i be invested if i did not see value in the company?  but....i did not invest yesterday....i do know the history of the company.  i did not question whether management acknowleded the shelving of the ignite and other r&d efforts....i questioned the fact that they did this.  big difference and i know i would be spinning my wheels in debating this with you.

and yes......manor,  i am a california native and i have driven by the office many times.....(i wanted to know....sorry to be negative...).  but i do agree with you...lets rent a 3000 sq ft office and not "fill that office space with needless employees".....i think there is a bod seat available on a BB stock i know......let me know if you are interested.

teremoto