Ahhmmm - I think Rare meant that he speaks with the CEO of the company "he" works for on a daily basis.

I think he was trying to convey that from working daily with his CEO and having a close relative who started a large company, rehtoric like "up and to the right" is frowned upon.

Since Patriot insiders do read this board, I think it's very important that we provide critisicm. Needless to say, there are some very bright people who post here and they can certainly provide criticism that will assist Turley and company to do the right thing for the shareholders.

Constantly praising the company and declaring how wonderful it is will only help us get more of the same - a floundering SP.