Jim Turley’s interview with The Wall Street Transcript.
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Sep 12, 2007 04:30PM
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Company Interview:
Patriot Scientific Corporation (PTSC)
TWST: What is Patriot Scientific Corporation?
Mr. Turley: Patriot Scientific is a high-tech
company outside of San Diego that’s been around
for 20 years. We are a publicly held high-tech company
and like most high-tech firms that are 20 years
old, we have developed a number of different products,
including radar technology, communication
equipment and ISDN technology. More recently the
company developed a 32-bit microprocessor chip
that we sold through the 1990s and in the early part
of this decade. The chip was very innovative and
sold reasonably well; in fact, we still sell the chip to
this day. But something that came out of that chip
development is that we were granted a handful of
patents on some of the technologies that fit into the
chip and, much to our surprise and delight, those
patents turned out to be enormously valuable and
helpful to us and to the market at large.
So, for the last couple of years, since the
summer of 2005, we have been offering those
patents under license to pretty much every chip
and microprocessor company in the world. It’s
been enormously successful for us and in the span
of just two years, we have already licensed 21
companies to our patents and we have a list of literally
more than 300 companies still to go.
TWST: Give us an idea of the overall platform. Is it relying on the one set of technology or is there additional development going on?
Mr. Turley: The patents were granted just
a few years ago during the development of our microprocessor
chip, and they have many years left
to go. The patents expire around 2015, so we’ve
got a long road ahead of us. There is a portfolio of
the patents; that is, we license them as a bundle
rather than having people pick and choose which
of the patents is applicable for their product. We
say, “You know what? Just take the whole bundle
at once and that way your full product line is covered
moving ahead and backward.” So we license
the portfolio of patents and they apply to pretty
much every microprocessor chip made.
It’s pretty boring to list details of a patent but
broadly speaking, they enable technologies to make
the chips run faster, which of course is something
everybody wants to do. The patents also cover ways
to save energy and use less electricity, which, again,
is something everybody wants to do. In our analysis,
we’ve discovered that nearly every chip company
in the world is making use of this technology
and therefore it is an ideal patent licensee.
TWST: You are saying risk of obsolescence is not near term?
Mr. Turley: No. We are not even halfway
through the life of these patents. We are licensing
firms at the rate of about one a month; as I said,
we’ve got 21 licensees so far; companies like Intel
and AMD took licenses early on. Hewlett-Packard
is a licensee. Companies like Casio, Pentax, Fujitsu,
Nikon, Lexmark — the list goes on and on. These
are big companies that are using Patriot Scientific’s
technologies in just about every conceivable type of
product from computers to digital cameras to photocopiers
— it can be almost anything.
TWST: What’s the drag as far as signing companies? Is it simply balancing your esources against the deals to be made? Are there ways to speed up the process? Does it just have its own timing?
Mr. Turley: It’s a little bit of both.
Although we are really happy with the rate at
which we have been signing licenses, of course
we prefer it to be faster. With 300 plus companies
still to go, I’m going to die an old man before I
can sign all of them at this rate. So having said
that, we are happy with the rate, but I would prefer
it to be quicker.
The drag initially was that people just
didn’t realize that they were using technology.
There is fair amount of education involved in
showing people that, “gee, you are using this
technology, you’ve put it in your products and
they are working very well, but golly, we invented
this a few years ago,” and we so we offer
them an opportunity to purchase the patent portfolio.
There is some initial resistance up front
simply because people are not aware. We think
that awareness is going to pick up and we have
some evidence that the license rate is increasing.
Now that companies like Sony, AMD, Intel,
Hewlett-Packard and the others are taking licenses,
it’s becoming clear to everybody else
that it is something they are going to need to do
in order to continue to innovate their own products.