After reading many of the post over the past month regarding Ron his views and his decision to step back from active participation on this board I felt compelled to make a comment or two. Folks, in my many years being associated with investors of public and private corporations I have rarely been associated with an individual of such obvious integrity as Ron has displayed over the years. I have never heard him spin an investment in Patriot one way or the other. He has always stated his views clearly and without prejudice. Unlike many posters Ron has never tested the waters and thereby never presented an opinion based upon what the news held on a day to day basis. In other words he never waivered. For those of us who have been invested off and on or just plain on for a decade or so, Ron and Brian were the pilars of this board. To attack either one of them at this time shows a lack of appreciation and or knowledge of what these leaders did to lay the foundation upon which you now write upon. I suggest instead of attacking a fellow shareholder if you feel a need to lay blame or cry foul regarding your investment, don't. If you don't like what is being said don't listen or as the saying goes if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. With all good luck and fortune to all God Bless marc