Thanks patientman.

Mvaar- I said reverse split R/S should never be used hammerhead (sorry). I am trying to develop a methodology to attack this bear that I can understand and I have asked for the boards assistance in coming up with a sequential way that our corporation could carry this out. I see that you are a smart guy and have some down to earth opinions on things that I don't necessarily agree on but some I do. I am looking for answers. I want you to look at the sequence. I don't know or want to know how the financiers do things , I want to know how a corporation can establish a highly aggressive business plan to jump start the company. This is not shoot from the hip and this is not the final answer as that will be developed by our CEO and the BOD. What I am interested in is the future starting today over the next few years. To accomplish this, it will take a lot of action. Jim Turley said it best " Write me letters, I may read them but don't expect any answers (implying in many ways that he is on the A train, get out of my way I'm moving down the road).