Why is someone, who's not happy with this decision, automatically a "subtle basher"? We have a closed message board for Patriot over here in Germany with great and deep DD on Patriot (FS is part of this group) and we are all more than long ojn PTSC, but so far, there are some, who welcome Turley as the "microprocessor spezialist", and there are others, who for several reasons don't see it as the PERFECT choice. This is called "free speech" and "free discussion" - and has nothing to do with bashing or dumping or whatever. We can be different in certain points without differing in the whole picture, try this... GL from Germany