Personally I think you are way off base regarding what Fish may settle for.. between $50 & 100 mil IMO is quite exagerated.. esp when it is possible he would end up with zip, considering some of the language in the contarct. And Giffhorn shouldn't get jack.. as he was granted retention of all of his options, and since has sold most... but they did settle with B&O for more than they should have IMO, so maybe Giff will get 1/2 mil.. Phoenix is a simple marriage of convenence/neccessity of public & private companies.. If you have a problem with the arrangment of its officers and don't trust what they may or may not do then you have to reexamine your investment here.. cuz that's the way it is.. now I have no problem with you making your concerns known, as all concerns should be continually brought to the attention of management.. they should know we will hold their collective feet to the fires. AS for your points regarding benefits, options & salaries.. I think you are spot on.. the old boy network is hard at work taking care of their own.. which maybe is the way the game is played.. and if it is, then the results for the shareholders they are beholden to had better be stellar Mr Pohl, I trust you know, we know you know this