by the way....Banosser....you have been saying all that needs to be said...perfectly. management is our wildcard and is what will make or break this puppy. it is all in the hands of management. if they execute, we win! Its a big IF...but they will have the unique opportunity of millions of dollars in the bank, the potential for millions more, and no overhead (other than schwartz) to find a place to invest this capital. They need to choose wisely. Thanks DotOb for the great info...much appreciated. best of luck to all, t'moto